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Old 08-07-2010, 12:33 PM
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Carp fishing..

Okay, I have to admit I love fly fishing for carp and I have had great success doing so.

Recently I have been doing Google searches and the more I read the more I see that people go after them with 7,8 and even 9 wt rods.. Seriously??? I head out with my 3 and sometimes 4wt rod. Never have I ever gone any heavier than that..

Am I missing something??
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:00 PM
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Mike, are you mainly targeting grassies? They are wimps compared to the commons. River carp will kick the crap out of a lake carp anyday. I know some guys up here that use 9wts in the Snake but they are also targeting 25-35lb commons! Total brutes. When I used to fish for them at San Carlos and Roosevelt, I used my 3wt because most of the ones I caught were in the 3-7lb range. Carp rock!
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:21 PM
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Paul hit it on the head. Totally depends on size and river vs. stillwater. There are some big big big carp out there. I used to catch them in one place on a canal where they were HUUUUUUGE. There were actually some really big bass mixed in too. The whole area is closed now for some security reason.
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:20 PM
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If one wanted to catch carp on the long rod what type of fly would they use?
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:56 PM
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Lots of different stuff works, and like trout, it depends on the situation.

The best carp fishing is when they're smutting on surface stuff. Like flying ants, where an ant pattern will kill of course. Other general attractors will work on the surface, but I like big rubber legged stuff like a PMX or Turck's Tarantula.

If you see carp tailing and feeding off the bottom, I like to use a fly that has some marabou, rubber legs and simiseal. It's weighted to ride hook-up, looks kind of like bonefish flies. I use different amounts of weight and more or less material to control how slowly it descends. If you can see them feeding in shallow water like this, it really is a LOT like bonefishing on a flat. Only I'd say carp are more spooky. It's a blast.

Small rubberleg nymps are good, just like a beadhead rubber leg hares ear or fox squirrel nymph.

If you're at a park pond or somewhere where kiddos like to feed the ducks, then a "bread fly" can kill.

Simiseal leeches and buggers work very well too. I've even seen guys tie up Goose-poop flies that work when the geese are around. Do a search on this site, I think we've talked about this before.

Like anything else, you just have to find what they're eating in that area. Ants, hoppers, cottonseeds, mullberries, bread on the surface... goose poop. Any of these might be the ticket depending where you are. The other stuff I mentioned works almost anywhere probably anytime.

What's worked best for you guys?
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:59 PM
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If one wanted to catch carp on the long rod what type of fly would they use?
Depends on the species of carp and where you are catching them. Sometimes damselfly nymphs work, sometimes they like buggers casted right to their nose (the ones at the ferry like that), somtimes little nymphs and in england some use dog food flys and chum with real dog food
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:00 PM
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I've caught them on a 4wt with a large Yellow Stimulator. I think they may see that as a "bread fly" but I'm not sure.
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Old 08-07-2010, 06:16 PM
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Thanks guys next time I see some I'll have to try for them.
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Old 08-07-2010, 06:28 PM
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My best flies over the years has been a size 14 or 16 bead head Pheasant tail or hares ear. Also have used a fly called a snapping shrimp! All have caught quite a few. Presentation is the key. My largest was on an all white bugger.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:17 PM
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I saw quite a few big ones, 10+ lbs at coon bluff on Wed
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