What fly needs to be made?

[mvtoro]

Originally Posted by Super fly

This sounds silly but maybe a better corn fly for those carp.

Not silly at all. Carp flies are the other thing that Shawn said Orvis needed specifically. I want to do a carp fly. Just not sure which way to go with it: Stand up worm, Headstand derivation... corn?

[mvtoro]

BTW: Some of you have asked about tying the Candy Crane. My buddy Spencer (the SOS guy) posted a tutorial for me on youtube so you can learn it if you like. It's been a killer pattern for me and our other guides.

Tim's Candy Crane

If admins want you can add this to the open fly box section.

[nelly]

a large midge dry cripple

i neeed one, and I've tried about 15 different variations on my own, maybe something with clear wings

[Super fly]

Originally Posted by mvtoro

Not silly at all. Carp flies are the other thing that Shawn said Orvis needed specifically. I want to do a carp fly. Just not sure which way to go with it: Stand up worm, Headstand derivation... corn?

All three of those sound good!

[DJones]

If you are interested in bargain prices for flies that look pretty good you can check out
http://www.flydealflies.com
look under Saltwater Flies, Deceivers-Saltwater, Sea-Ducer
might be something you can use

[toddthefrog]

The the "d" in djones stand for "d"idn't read the post?

[lostdutchman]

carp flies..

Ive noticed that the flies that orvis sells specifically for carp have a ton of flash. or flashy material ( ie crystal chenille) carp are smarter than that! haha

a good mid water column carp fly would be perfect.. for those times when they are cruising and eating.. not just tailing. A good swimming nymph. ( damsel, hybrid of somesort) .

topwater carp fly. come up w/ a good looking mulberry fly ( or olives for our neck of the woods) for grassies.. the important thing here is a god stout short hook w/ a little bit larger gape. grassies get big.. and they love to break/straighten out hooks.

and a good carp fly for those tailing guys would be a cross between a backstabber and a headstanding worm.. i think they thing that works so well w/ the headstands is that YOU can see them just as well as the fish. the action a backstabber gives when twitched would be a perfect harmony ( I think)

excited to see what you chose to design.. you always do great work.

[mvtoro]

Originally Posted by lostdutchman

good looking mulberry fly ( or olives for our neck of the woods) for grassies..

Didn't think of this. Does anyone have a picture of an olive or mulberry that they've actually seen in water. I haven't fished them before and don't remeber what they look like when they fall (olives are really dark purple or black by this time aren't they?) I don't trust just looking at what other people have tied.

Originally Posted by lostdutchman

carp flies..

Ive noticed that the flies that orvis sells specifically for carp have a ton of flash. or flashy material ( ie crystal chenille) carp are smarter than that! haha
...
and a good carp fly for those tailing guys would be a cross between a backstabber and a headstanding worm.. i think they thing that works so well w/ the headstands is that YOU can see them just as well as the fish. the action a backstabber gives when twitched would be a perfect harmony ( I think)

excited to see what you chose to design.. you always do great work.

This reinforces a lot of what I've been thinking. I'm working on a more vertical backstabber-type fly right now... and I had the same ideas about avoiding too much flash. It also makes me a little gunshy on how bright to make accent colors on the fly. Balancing visibility vs. carp saying "screw that neon crap".

Pretty soon I'll post some pics of what I've got so far and you guys can give me some feedback.

[mvtoro]

First attempts at a couple of the flies I've been considering:

First edition of mysis development:


Overly complicated and flashy (couldn't resist) carp fly mark 1:


These are the rough drafts, but let me know What should I change, where should I pare down?

[herefishy]

The mysis looks like an alien!