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Bucksnort 05-30-2019 09:08 AM

New Mexico Gila Trout
 
In August, I will return from my annual fishing trip to Colorado. My driving route takes me through Farmington, NM then Gallup then on to Holbrook and home through Payson.

I am considering making a side trip to western NM to attempt to catch a Gila trout but I don't know where to go. Any suggestions? I will do some research on the internet.

joe 05-30-2019 09:45 AM

The information to catch any Heritage trout of the Western USA is at this link which I posted here recently:

https://westernnativetroutchallenge.org/

1. click on fish maps
2. then click on NM

Bucksnort 05-30-2019 09:57 AM

I found the name of creeks with Gilas.

Black Canyon Creek
East Fork Mogollon Creek
Iron Creek
Willow Creek
Galita Creek

Seldomseen 05-30-2019 05:49 PM

You might enjoy a trip to the campgrounds at Willow Creek. Take your time to explore the Bursum Road through Mogollon.

Recommended reading regarding Mogollon (note that the book is about Mogollon, NM rather that Mongolia as Amazon thinks):

https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Bloated.../dp/0944383025

You can get NM licences online.

Be prepared for Monsoon storms. :)

edit: saw that the campground is temporarily closed due to flooding this spring, might want to keep your eye on that.

aztightlines 05-30-2019 06:38 PM

Willow Creek is probably the most accessible of the streams listed.

Whitewater Creek above Glenwood, NM had beautiful little gila/rainbow hybrids and was fairly accessible, but a flood took out the catwalk years back, and I don't know how it has fared since.

Mogollon is a funny little town on the way in to Willow Creek from this side, worth a stop for coffee and pie at the hotel in town. There was a tiny mining museum, an old mining town, I guess.

Westy 05-31-2019 01:50 PM

Whitewater Creek has since been stocked with Gila Trout. G&F has is restoring the entire Whitewater Creek watershed with Gila. The Catwalk was repaired.

Sasquatch 06-13-2019 12:20 PM

If you like small impoundments I have heard good reports about Gwynnn tank. Consult Nm road maps it will be from Gallup take 602s to36s to32s to Apache creek. From there you will need the Gila forest map take 94s to 159s. It is at the junction with 141. From there you can continue to Gilta creek and Willow creek. Then to 180 and visit Mineral creek and or Whitewater creek. From Glenwood south on 180 to Mule creek and over to Clifton and Safford. From Apache creek to Mogollon is all improved gravel. Fuel at Quemado and Alma by Mineral creek.

jchar85719 07-03-2019 01:01 PM

I am curious, if anybody knows, where is the closest gila trout fishing in New Mexico from Tucson? I routinely drive five or six hours to go trout fishing in AZ from Tucson, and am starting to think I might be going about this all wrong. It really had not occurred to me that there is trout fishing in New Mexico that is about the same distance, or possibly even closer.

joe 07-03-2019 03:02 PM

Whitewater Creek is the closest to Tucson and with good access. I posted this a year ago on facebook but my post was deleted by a Tucsonian.

flyer 07-03-2019 06:02 PM

The closest to Tucsonans is Frey Mesa near Safford. Good luck.

aztightlines 07-03-2019 09:32 PM

What is a "Tucsonian"..and how would one delete another's angler's post, unless they were a moderator?

joe 07-03-2019 09:44 PM

People who live 120 miles S. by SE of Phoenixians are Tucsonians.

Yes, he was the moderator and still is.

Seldomseen 07-04-2019 04:56 AM

Rod - I believe both Tucsonian is a valid term as is Arizonian along with Arizonan.

And Joe must be talking about the AZ Fly Fishing group on Facebook which I was run off of (*) for being a "Communist from California" among other things which is odd considering I am originally from Tucson, whatever you call a person from that place. ;)


(*) - I was NOT run off by the moderators.

SJDrifli 07-04-2019 07:02 AM

I believe it is Tucsonan

Seldomseen 07-04-2019 07:11 AM

I have seen this argument a number of times over the years. Tucsonian is more commonly used as an adjective, but is not incorrect as a noun. Tucsonan is more commonly used as a noun. At least that is the best I have been able to make of it over the years. Same/Same with Arizonian/Arizonan.

ETA - My grandfather graduated from Tucson HS in 1937. The name of the yearbook is "The Tucsonian" and my grandparents called themselves "Tucsonians". That said, that version of the noun seems to have fallen out of favor over the past 50 years. Or maybe it is a Southside thing? #missionmanor #midvale #sanxavierdelbac

Now back to them GUY-la troot.....

aztightlines 07-04-2019 08:57 AM

I just left - voluntarily - the Facebook group "520 Bass Masters" with full disclosure: I was only there to report to a flyfishing friend on the possibilities of weekend "tournaments" with up to 30 boats at Arivaca Lake..so he could avoid the lake on those days.

They posted photos of "ninja fishing" on local golf course ponds..then whined about reports the Game&Fish were about to set up stings to catch them. Pretty humorous to me, as I secretly approve of the poaching/trespassing raids on the aforementioned ponds...but not the huge number of boats on a 90 acre public lake.

Getting back to "Tucsonans" vs "Tucsonians"... the latter does not sound right to me, as I have never heard that term applied locally. I don't get to tell folks in my former hometown, as someone who left about 50 years ago never to return other than visits, what to call themselves. Woodstockians, or Woodstockans doesn't quite ring as true as a Woodstocker..which I am not any more.

Seldomseen 07-04-2019 09:59 AM

Sorry - I did not mean to offend. I was not trying to tell you what to call yourselves - all I was trying to say is that, maybe Joe was not entirely wrong.

FWIW - I use Tucsonan and Arizonan now, but I am holding on to PRESScutt.

joe 07-04-2019 10:33 AM

If Phoenixian is correct, then everything I say is correct.

SJDrifli 07-04-2019 12:01 PM

It is Prescutt and Tucsonan and Arizonan and Phoenician.

aztightlines 07-04-2019 05:18 PM

You can call it whatever you want, Mike..been told it's Preskitt...rhymes with biscuit

Tying2Fly 07-08-2019 10:41 AM

I am more into the good meats (Brisket) side of town... pressket.


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